The thinkers

The podcast is an argument between three disciplines. Psychotherapy asks what an idea does to a person. Research asks whether the idea is true. Depth psychology asks where the idea came from and why it was so hard to give up. These pages treat the hosts as thinkers rather than presenters.

Stella O'Malley as a thinker

Psychotherapist, author, host of Beyond Gender

Stella O'Malley's central idea is simple and unfashionable: that the surge in young people identifying as transgender is a cultural event before it is a medical one, and that a culture can be studied.

Mia Hughes as a researcher

Researcher, author of The WPATH Files, co-host

Mia Hughes's method is documentary. She works from the primary text, the leaked message, the guideline as written, the published study rather than the press release, and asks whether the public story matches the private record.

Bret Alderman as a psychologist

Depth psychologist, writer, co-host

Bret Alderman's question is not whether gender ideology is true but what it does: to the person who adopts it, to the therapist who must affirm it, and to a profession that agreed to stop asking.